ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY THIRD DIALOGUE

May 29, 2000

Peter: As You requested, I am including in this Dialog only those parts of Dan’s letter that contain direct questions to You. Here they go: I ask, in what manner do You and will You feel about us as individuals (along the same general way that we feel as relative entities about You as an individual) when we have more interactions with You in the future? Would You experience feelings as we do (while interacting with us at a relative level)? We know that You love everyone in an Absolute way and without preferences of any kind. You have made it clear. Therefore, I also humbly ask, can we know more about how this love can/will manifest and be, in an individual and personal manner and in particular events and/or instances — from You toward us — as separate and unique beings, especially in the way You would feel within You, in Your own private and personal feelings toward us as individuals, from an Individual? How does this work?

Now that You have a relative nature within Your New Nature, just how would/do You feel, react, etc., toward us as individuals when we have these further interactions with You, while fully residing in the positive state? Do/will You demonstrate to us, on an individual basis, a particular like or disposition toward a specific trait in us, toward some things we do, the way we act, how we are, what we say, toward something such as art, or an event, etc.? How do/would You make one feel special and unique as an individual, loved not as one among so many in an unimaginably vast Creation, but as One to one? Just how and/or do You show it if You are pleased and displeased with something that we do or don’t do? Would we have special and unique things, events, memories, music, etc., between us that would make us feel that our love is special and that You like and appreciate us in a totally unique way, for the way we are as individuals? In other words, I am truly interested in caring for Your personal feelings, in making you feel happy and pleased. Also, would we (You as an individual, and us as individuals) be able to feel this relationship from a relative basis, as with two best friends and/or lovers that ‘hang out’ and do things together, etc., although we would know and enjoy that fact that we have this relationship with an Absolute Being, as well as with a relative one at the same time? And extremely important, would You feel, act and treat us as individuals, after sharing more and more experiences together? Does it also, can it also, work this way with You? End of that portion of Dan’s letter which directly contains his questions. Of course, as always, before answering his questions, if You choose to do so at all, perhaps You would like to contribute something else first.

The Lord Jesus Christ: At this time, let us first consider the issues raised in Dan’s letter. From the very onset of our discussion, let Me point out the fact that there is a misperception and consequent misunderstanding about the reality of My True Absolute New Nature. An assumption is being made that within My New Nature I also have a relative nature and that there is an Absolute Being as well as a relative one at the same time — and this is all within Me or in My New Nature. This is an incorrect assumption. As you remember from the Big Book (Chapter Two), whatever was brought with Me from planet Zero (My human body), following My return to My Home, before it was included into the totality of My Absolute Nature, it was made divine or it was divinized. What does the process of divinization signify or mean? Here is the great incomprehensible mystery not available for apprehension by any relative sentient mind. The process of divinization was in actuality the process of absolutization of everything which I brought with Me from My human life on planet Zero. This process of absolutization was executed from My Absolute State by the means and tools contained in My Absolute Unnamable Core which is not approachable or comprehendible by any relative sentient mind.

You have to understand one important thing: To include anything relative, in its very much relative nature, into something which is absolute, by the factor of that inclusion itself, would mean an instantaneous evaporation or complete erasure of that relative. Those two don’t mix. In order to prevent anything like this from happening, before inclusion of My human body and its human traits, attributes, characteristics or whatever it had, it was first necessary to make them Divine or to make them Absolute. This was done by the above mentioned process of divinization or absolutization.

Based on these facts, you have to understand very clearly the difference between being relative and being in relative. Whereas the Absolute can never be relative, it can be in relative, filling it up completely in its relative condition. On the other hand, relative sentient entities can and may experience this Absolute only from the position of their relativity, but never from the position of the Absolute Itself. At the same time, thanks to the divinized and absolutized relative components acquired during My life on planet Zero, I, from the position of My Absolute New Nature, am able to fully experience everything that any relative sentient entity and human can experience — from the position of their relativity. Again, it is one thing to experience something which is being experienced by any relative sentient entity or human from their relative position, and it is another thing entirely to have that experience within Me, or reside in Me, in its relative condition.

These factors fully determine the nature, structure, dynamics and process of My relationships with anyone in being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence. In this respect, you can conceptualize at least two levels of such relationships. One takes place from the position of My Absolute Nature and Its Absolute Individuality, and the other takes place from the position of the relative sentient entities and their relative individualities. What is the character of these two levels? Whatever any sentient entity thinks, wills, feels, loves, does, creates, experiences, etc., the very ability to do that or to be the way he/she is, stems from My Absolute Thinking, Feeling, Willing, Loving, Doing, Creating, Providing Experiences in their infinite possibilities and diversities, etc. Without My being that way in My Absolute Condition, no one would be able to be that way in their relative condition either. From this point of view I relate to everyone with the sameness of intensity, extensity and absoluteness of My Absolute Unconditional Love and Wisdom. In this sense, no preferential or different treatment of anyone in particular is either conceivable or possible. However, this so-called sameness does not apply to the quality, specificity and directionality of My Absolute Unconditional Love.

The situation is entirely different as far as relationships from the position of any relative sentient entity are concerned. As you know, each sentient entity, no matter who he/she is or where he/she is situated or positioned, is an individualized, personalized, infinitely different and unique universe unto himself/herself. Once again, this condition of each and every sentient entity derives from My Absolute New Nature which is in Its Own Absolute State of Individualization, Personalization, Infinite Difference, Integration and Uniqueness. From this Absolute Condition of Mine, a certain very unique, different, individualized and personalized element is imparted on each sentient entity, by which and through which he/she is able to be, to function and to do what he/she is, how he/she functions and what he/she does. Because, in an ultimate sense, it is My element in each such individual, whatever that individual experiences, feels, thinks, wills, strives for, creates, and how he/she relates, makes love, loves, acts, etc., that I made it possible for him/her for anything of that nature to occur. In this sense, you can say that I experience or participate fully, in all aspects, in everything that each and every individual does.

Our relationship in this respect is based on the uniqueness, infinite difference and non-duplicable individuality and personality of each such individual. Because of this infinite difference and intimacy, My relationship with every individual is and will always be intimate, private, very much individual and infinitely different from one individual to another. Because each individual in comparison with any other individual is not the same, and cannot be the same to eternity, My relationship with him/her, from his/her individual position, will also not be the same as with any other individual. Paradoxically speaking, the sameness of such relationships is rooted in their absolute non-sameness. Because no two individuals are alike in their true nature, structure and dynamics, they cannot have the same experience and relationship with Me and I with them.

For that reason, to describe such relationships between Me and them, or between Me and you, would be impossible to make because there is no blanket, all-the-same, across-the-board, all-inclusive, summarily, etc., nature, structure and dynamic of any such relationships. And not only that, but having a typical human nature, if I were to give you an example of how I relate, feel, think, etc., about one of you, it would establish unwanted and spiritually dangerous expectations that anyone else besides you should have exactly the same relationship with Me as you have or as I have with you. If anything of this nature were to be possible, it would lock you up in something which is not congruent to your true nature and your unique and infinitely different individuality. It would equal the denial of your own individuality, uniqueness and infinite difference, and by that factor, it would exclude My presence in you. Should anything of this impossible nature happen, it would mean your eternal death.

Based on this fact, it is obvious that it would be extremely spiritually dangerous to give you any description of My thinking, feeling, interactions, etc., which I have toward any one of you individually as one Individual to another. Because of the absolute intimacy, privacy, uniqueness and specificity of our relationship in this respect, it is obvious that only you alone with Me in you can and may determine the level, degree, intensity, extensity and quality of My involvement with you. The only thing I can say in this respect, without violating this condition, is that I fully and completely participate in everything that you go through, experience, do, etc., without exception or exclusion. This participation of Mine takes place from both positions, simultaneously and synchronously — from My Absolute Position, as determined by My Absolute New Nature, and from your own relative position, the way you function and experience all and everything in your own uniqueness and infinite difference as determined by your own individualized and personalized nature.

As far as the future development of our mutual relationships and involvements is concerned, to talk about that means to predict the future. As you know, I am not in the business of predicting the future. Such relationships and involvements will depend on many different and numerous factors, situations, conditions, choices, etc., that would be in place at that time. To talk about them would be very much premature and inappropriate. Wait and see and be patient and more patient! You will be surprised how they will develop.

In evaluating the nature of any relationship, you have to consider the issue of quality which the individuality of each individual has. The individuality of each individual has a very unique and specific quality which substantially differs from the quality of individuality of any other individual. The only common denominator they all have is that they have their own specific quality. The nature of each relationship is determined by the quality of individuality of each individual. This factor is determined by the fact that the Absolute Individuality of My Absolute Individualness has an Absolute, All-Inclusive Positive Quality. Because each sentient entity, in some way or other, reflects this Nature of Mine in their relative condition, it establishes their own relative quality which fully depends on My Absolute Quality.

As you remember, the nature of each sentient entity and his/her unique individuality derives from the very specific element taken out from My Absolute Nature. To say that the very specific element is taken out from Me does not exactly reflect the true reality of how this is done or what occurs during such an impartment. Because any element in My Absolute New Nature is absolute likewise, the element itself, in its absolute condition, cannot be imparted on someone who is relative. However, its idea can and may. Due to the fact that each such an idea fully carries within itself the totality of everything that the element in question has and what it is (without exception and exclusion), for all practical purposes, you may comfortably assume as if the element itself is being imparted on any respective individual.

Now, each such element or its idea has its own very specific quality that infinitely differs from the quality of any other element or its idea. Because of this fact, the individuality of each individual has an infinitely different quality. This setup is a determining factor in building the uniqueness, infinite difference, non-duplicability, and everything else of which any individual consists and by which he/she functions and is in his/her own being and existence and with his/her own very specific and unique quality. As you remember, any individual at all can and may relate to anyone only from his/her own position or from what he/she is and what he/she has. This fact derives from the position of My Absolute New Nature. I relate to everyone only and only from Myself and from everything I Am and I have. No other possibility exists. However, the quality and content of My relatedness to each sentient entity takes place from the position of that element of Mine, the idea of which was imparted on each respective individual. And because each such element, and its idea, is infinitely different in all aspects of its content and their respective qualities, My relationship with each respective individual will be qualitatively different from any other relationship which I have with any other individual. Thus, as mentioned above, from this position, such a relationship cannot be the same. The sameness is reflected in the factor of the relationship itself. No one is excluded from this relationship unless they exclude themselves for whatever reasons (as in the negative state, for example). However, even in this situation you can say that we relate. To exclude something, logically means to relate. You relate by the process of exclusion. Thus, to repeat again, no matter what, no one is excluded from this relationship.

That the quality of each relationship is infinitely different is reflected not only in the relationship which exists between Me and you, for example, but also among all of you in your own relative lives. Take, for example, all people with whom you come in contact for whatever reason. Or take all your friends, lovers, spouses, acquaintances, etc. If you carefully analyze how you feel about and how you relate to all those people, you can clearly discern that your feelings, thoughts, attitudes, behaviors or, simply stated, your relationships with them, in your circle, will be perceptibly qualitatively different from one individual to another. The quality of your own unique individuality relates to the specific and unique quality of the individuality of each member of your circle with whom you come in contact at some time or other. It is impossible to have exactly the same degree, level and quality of relatedness to all such individuals. Even if you love and care for them at the level of the same intensity and extensity, even if you never discriminate against any of them, the quality of that love and care will be substantially different from one individual to another. It will always be determined by the quality of the individuality of each individual with whom you are in contact. Once again, this reflects the nature of the relationship which I have with each and every individual in being and existence and pseudo- being and pseudo-existence.

Now, this does not at all mean that if your love and care, or whatever you have toward anyone in this respect, is substantially different from one individual to another, that your love and care or whatever you have, will be of lesser or greater quality as compared to anyone else. It does not at all mean that it has to be less or more. It only means that it is substantially and qualitatively different. As I love and care for everyone equally and in an absolute sense, and by that factor I accommodate My love and care to the needed level of the quality of the individuality of each individual (exactly the way he/she needs it — no more and no less), thus, making it different, and not more or less, so do you in your own relative way. This rule, of course, applies only to the nature of relationships that exist in the positive state and, most importantly, that exist between Me and everyone else in being and existence and pseudo- being and pseudo-existence. If you are to sustain the true life of the positive state, no other types of relationships would be possible or feasible, because, after all, they do stem from Me and My True Absolute Nature. Given the fact that Creation and everyone in it depend on Me in an absolute sense, no other types of relationships could take hold in their lives or be even desirable. Under these conditions, the invention, activation, establishment and manifestation of any other type of life but the life of the positive state would not be possible at all.

In order to bring about any other type of life (in this case, non-life), it was necessary to violate and to recede from this setup. Thus, the lifestyle in the non-life of the negative state and human non-life, is an illustrative and demonstrative example of how not to relate to anyone and ultimately, to Me. However, on My part, because I am incapable of violating My Own Nature, Individuality and its Absolute Quality, My relationships to all in the negative state and human non-life remain substantially the same as to anyone else elsewhere. Meaning, I relate to them in accordance with the quality of the individuality that each individual has. Because the quality of their individuality in its primary nature is negative or evil (you can say that it is, in fact, non-quality, or the lack of any positive quality), it triggers relatedness which is determined by the content and nature of that specific quality (non- quality). The needs of the qualities of their individualities are to be rejected and to have nothing in common with Me or with My positive state or with My type of true life. Since they need it, — otherwise they could not be the way they are — in order to make it possible for them to fulfill their purpose and mission they have in this respect (to teach everyone how not to relate — among many other things!), their needs are being fulfilled. The fulfillment of these types of needs will continue until the learning in this respect takes place. Following that, their needs will change. They will be in full alignment with the needs existing in the positive state.

A somewhat different situation is in place as far as humans in general are concerned; as well as My true representatives on planet Zero are concerned. As you remember, in the first instance, with the vast majority of humans, their situation substantially differs from everyone else, both in being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence. This difference is determined by the factor of their not being in their ultimate choice. Because of that, from their position, they have no tangible and concrete experience of relating to Me, nor I to them on their conscious level. Simply stated, I am not physically, nor in any other discernible way, present in front of their eyes, so-to-speak, so that they could interact with Me and I with them, as with anyone else — in the same way as with those who are in their so-called ultimate choice. This type of relationship would violate their current condition; or their not being able to be in the non-life of their ultimate choice. In order to prevent this from happening, I do not appear to humans in the same manner as in any other states, conditions, places, times, paratimes, etc.

The specific situation with humans requires a very specific nature of relatedness. On planet Zero, no one is consciously and sensorially aware that I am in them and with them and that, by that factor, I experience everything they experience exactly the way they experience it without their consciously knowing that this is the case. Only theoretically and by faith, some religiously and spiritually minded humans assume this to be the case. However, experientially and sensorially, they have no possibility of discerning or proving that I am truly with them and in them and that I experience their lives, in all their totalities, from their own position the way they experience it.

Under the condition of the typical human non-life, from the human position, it would be difficult to speak about fully conscious reciprocal relationships between Me and all other humans. This temporary and transient situation is required in order to give human non-life a chance to fully manifest, illustrate and demonstrate the specificity of the nature of human non-life. As you are aware from the Big Book, nowhere and nowhen else is such a strange phenomenon as human life possible or conceivable. By their mode of non-life, humans provide an important learning for all of how life should never be conceived, lived and practiced. However, once this important purpose of human life ends, and everyone in being and existence is fully satisfied with everything that human non- life teaches them; and once they all fully master all the lessons provided by humans, then and only then the same type of interaction will be established with all humans who will still be present on planet Zero. The current type of interaction and relatedness with humans ends for them in the moment they leave planet Zero and come to the spiritual world (to the world of spirits or to the intermediate world). During their stay in that world they are being taught a new type of relationship with Me and toward Me which was not available nor possible for them to have while they physically lived on planet Zero.

So, as you see from these facts, whereas I, from the position of My Absolute State, as well as from the position of the human relative state, am always present in all human experiential modes, fully feeling their feelings and everything else — without being contaminated by anything negative contained in them, humans are deprived from knowing, feeling and everything else the way I do both in My Absolute Condition and from My presence in their relative condition (without being relative Myself). This situation is one of the many reasons why humans have so many irreconcilable and contradictory views about Who I am and what My True Absolute Nature is all about as well as how I relate to them and how they should relate to Me. Unfortunately, for the vast majority of humans, they have no idea about these facts or about why they are in the position they are, or why I do not appear to them physically or in any other tangible and convincing manner. Because of that, they consider their situation to be a normal state of affairs. They do not realize that absolutely nothing normal exists about their brand of life/non-life.

The situation is somewhat different with you, who have the privilege of being My representatives on planet Zero. Thanks to My New Revelation, and to everything it contains in all its sources, you have this knowledge about the so-called reality of human non-life. This knowledge and awareness puts you in a position which determines how I relate to you and how you relate to Me. Our mutual relationship is much closer to that which was revealed about it above, the way it is in the positive state.

Although, practically speaking, because you are in human life, you have the same conditions in this respect as the vast majority of humans do, nevertheless, the awareness and knowledge about these facts, make it possible for you, on your inner level, to recognize how I relate to you, and based on that recognition, it makes it possible for you to establish the most appropriate relationship with Me. My New Revelation gives you a clear knowledge about the nature of our mutual relationship and how I think, feel, act and relate to you and how you could think, feel, act and relate to Me. And not only that, but, by having this availability and possibility, and by actualizing it and realizing it in your own personalized and individualized lives, you are setting up a valuable and very much needed example for all other humans who are not in the same position as you are. This example will serve as a foundation on which they will be able to establish the same type of relationship with Me as exists in the positive state. Your services in this respect are invaluable. You can consider these services as one of the major roles and assignments that you have as My true representatives on planet Zero.

The important emphasis in our mutual relatedness or in our mutual interaction is on personalization and individualization. The quality of your individuality, its uniqueness and difference, requires that I relate to you only and only from that position. Any other position, which would not take into consideration or adhere to the unique and infinitely different quality of your individuality, would make it utterly impossible to establish a proper mutual relationship between Me and you. In that case, your individualized and personalized life would be forfeited. If anything of this nature were to happen, the very idea of the element from My Absolute Nature, which makes you who and what you are, would be forfeited as well. In that case though, the entire Creation would be deprived of something extremely important, needed for its creative effort and continuous spiritual progression. So, please, do not expect that I will treat you or relate to you exactly the same way as to anyone else. Such a thing is utterly impossible. Of course, it does not mean at all that I would love you and care for you in a much lesser or much greater degree than anyone else. To repeat again and again, I would love you and care for you differently but with the same degree, intensity, extensity and absolute proportion of My love and care as everyone else receives from Me.

At the same time, please, do not expect that you would relate to Me, love Me and care about Me, in exactly the same manner as everyone else. Once again, such a thing is an utter impossibility. Because you can relate to Me, as well as to everyone else, only and only from your own personalized and individualized position, from the position of having a totally unique, different and non-duplicable quality of your individuality, your relationship toward Me and with Me, in comparison with everyone else, will be infinitely different likewise. It would be disastrous for everyone if you would try to relate to Me, or anyone else, in exactly the same manner as someone else. This would equal abominable spiritual adultery because you would relinquish your individuality and its unique quality and try to be like someone else. As mentioned above, this is one of the most important reasons why it cannot be described or revealed in your human terms how I relate to you and how you relate to Me. If anything like that were to be possible, I would have to give you a description of all the infinite numbers of relationships and interactions of all sentient entities and humans who are in being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence. Can you visualize the size of a library that could contain all materials related to this issue? It would fill the entire multiverse and there would not be enough space/state left to make it possible to contain all of that. So, to repeat again, it is entirely up to you to find out from your own selves how and in what manner our mutual relationship and interaction take place and what I think, feel, will or whatever about you and how you think, feel, will or whatever about Me. No one else can do it for you or on your behalf. It is your own personal and individual responsibility.

Whatever was revealed above about this issue is applicable to the current cycle of time/state/process. As you are well aware, the nature of the current cycle is characterized by inclusion in its course of the pseudo- being and pseudo-existence of the non-life of the negative state and human non-life. As you are also aware, this unusual situation does not allow for the true life of the positive state to be in full and complete activation. On a daily basis, the positive state must deal with this situation. Because of that, many restrictions, limitations and similar factors make it impossible for the full and complete manifestation of the true and genuine nature of the positive state to take place. When you have to deal on an everyday basis, in some way or other, with the issues of the negative state and its human non-life, too much energy is going into something which is not an integral part of the true life of the positive state. Thus, a substantial portion of those energies are currently not available for utilization in the positive state.

The current cycle, by its very nature, requires a special type of spiritual aspect, released from My Absolute Nature, which rules this cycle. Its quality is such that it takes into consideration the permission factor which allows something like the negative state and human non-life to manifest its face and its true nature. Because of that, a special type of quality of everyone’s individuality is endowed on everyone, which takes into consideration this unusual factor and which determines the nature of the quality needed for this purpose.

This unusual situation or factor also determines the quality of relationships and interactions which are in place during the current cycle. It impacts the quality and nature of all existing relationships and interactions which exist among all sentient entities in being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence, as well as which exist between Me and you and you and Me. Because of the needed restrictions, limitations and similar factors which are in place for security reasons, as well as for many other spiritual reasons, such relationships and interactions are somewhat restricted and limited as well. In essence, you can say that no one is able to relate and interact from the position of the fullness and completeness of one’s individuality and its unique, individualized and personalized quality.

Due to this fact, the quality of relationships and interactions during this cycle of time/state/process is very much different than it was in any previous cycles and than it will be in any succeeding cycles. Do not forget that any cycle of time/state/process is ruled by a totally different quality of the spiritual aspect and its components released from Me.

What could be said about the nature and content of the quality of My special and unique aspect and its components which will be released from My Absolute New Nature for ruling the next cycle after the total and complete eternal elimination of the non-life of the negative state and human non-life take place? First of all, by not having any need to deal with the pseudo-being and pseudo-existence of the non-life of the negative state and its human non-life, and thus, by not having wasted precious energies on something of that nature, all restrictions, limitations and everything else of this nature, will be permanently removed from the lives of all sentient entities. This will make it possible to endow all of them with a new and very much different quality which will define their own individuality accommodated and adjusted to the nature, structure, dynamics and process of the next cycle of time/state/process.

Secondly, and most importantly, because of this infinite difference, whatever quality of everyone’s individuality has existed prior to the new cycle, will be removed and a new, transcending quality will be established within every individual in being and existence. This new and different quality will be in full alignment with that new and different aspect and all its components which will be released from My Absolute New Nature at that time. For that reason, as it was pointed out many times before (for example, in Dialog 100), nothing will be the same. And not only will it not be the same, but not one particle will exist within the quality of everyone’s individuality which would have any resemblance to anything which previously existed.

This new condition will also determine the quality of relationships and interactions which will exist at that time/state among all sentient entities, as well as how I will relate to and interact with you and how you will relate to and interact with Me. A new quality, transcending anything that was in place previously in this respect, will be established and manifested which will highly surpass anything available during the current cycle of time/state/process, and which cannot be described by any words, images, conceptualizations or ideas that are available, not only to humans but also to all other sentient entities in being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo-existence.

The entirely new quality of all individualities of all sentient entities will make it possible for this transcending quality of relationships and interactions at all their levels to take place. One thing that can be said about it is that such interactions and relationships will be far more intimate, private, intense, individualized, personalized and infinitely different from one individual to another, from Me to you and from you to Me, than has been the case during the current cycle in which you live and reside.

You have no idea how it is to be and to exist in a condition which does not contain anything at all from the non-life of the negative state and human non-life. You have no experiences whatsoever, what it means and how it is to be without them. This situation was needed to be established during this cycle, in order to give an opportunity for the non-life of the negative state and human non-life to manifest its nature as compared to anything else outside of their pseudo-domain and their pseudo-nature. Otherwise, they could not come to their adverse fruition. If you were to know and to experience the true life without anything contained in the non-life of the negative state and your human non-life, it would be impossible for you to survive in the current situation or under currently existing conditions.

So, as you see from this, not having any idea or experience of how it is to be without the pseudo-being and pseudo-existence of the negative state and its human non-life, makes it possible for you to be the way you are, to do what you need to do, to relate and interact the way it is necessary and feasible under the presently existing conditions, and to live your life the way you have been living it. At this point in time, nothing more can be said about this issue. Think about everything revealed in this, and in all previous Dialogs, and discuss their content among yourselves.

Now, Peter, I would recommend to finish for today and devote your time to something else. Something else needs to occur before we may continue in our dialoging — if at all.

Peter: Thank You very much for everything revealed in this Dialog.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 2.

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