ONE HUNDRED AND FORTY SECOND DIALOGUE

May 25, 2000

Peter: I understand that You would like to continue in further elaboration on the topic ‘I am’ versus ‘ego’ and the ‘switching mechanism.’ Also, I received some questions from Erin Martz of the USA and Boris Bella of Slovakia. Erin’s questions are as follows: In order to understand the bridge between the old and new concepts, Swedenborg described ‘proprium’ as the state of selfishness that exists before spiritual regeneration. How is this concept distinct from the ego states, described in The New Revelation of The Lord Jesus Christ, which individuals need to shed in order to live from their ‘I am?’ Also, in view of the impact of His/Her New Nature upon all creation, was the concept of ‘conjugial love’ a necessary concept from You that needed to be discussed at that time, or was it more of a creation from Swedenborg’s mental and moral viewpoints (some argued whether it was a divinely inspired book)? In the concept of conjugial love, Swedenborg discussed the process of a husband and wife knowing each other first from within then to without, which reflects a proper spiritual order. Yet, at the same time, many concepts written by Swedenborg in his book Conjugial Love appeared biased against women. Was he reflecting the social climate of his day, or was the concept a necessary step to take to bridge The New Revelation’s discussion of the process and meaning of sexuality in the positive state? End of Erin’s questions.

Boris Bella’s questions are as follows (I am translating them): In Dialog 130 the concept of Universality-Of-It-All was discussed. I would like to know from the position of multiversal meaning, how could it be useful for anyone to have a need to bring to one’s attention anything at all in the next cycle, which was experienced during the current cycle of time/state/process, by him/her entering the Universality-Of-It-All and re-experiencing and recalling everything needed to be experienced and remembered about what happened in the previous cycle, if everyone in the entire Creation learned what not to choose and how not to be and if the idea of rejecting The Lord Jesus Christ as the only Source of eternal life will be excised and eliminated from the minds of all sentient entities in Creation? And with this is connected another question: Can we know about how the utilization of the Universality-Of-It-All will be for the eternal learning of sentient entities, who participated in the current cycle of time (and who had already experienced what not to choose and how not to be and who learned not ever to choose the idea of rejection of the true life of The Lord Jesus Christ) or what does it mean about the possibility that entities will be learning again and will be reminded again, what not to choose into their open memory? By the way, what do we know about memory as such? Will each newly created sentient entity in the new cycle of time/state/process be experiencing the process of learning about the non-life of the negative state from the Universality-Of-It-All, so that the idea of rejecting the true life or wanting to experience non-life of the negative state would have no place in the fullness of the positive state even as the learning process, which will be available in the Universality-Of-It- All? End of Boris’ questions. How would You like to proceed in this respect?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Let us first elaborate some more on the issues of ‘I am,’ ‘ego,’ ‘you’ and ‘switching mechanism’ (Mirko’s original question as recorded in Dialog 141). For the human conscious mind it is extremely difficult to conceptualize or apprehend such theoretical constructs as ‘I am,’ ‘ego,’ ‘you,’ ‘switching mechanism’ and similar seemingly abstract concepts. There is nothing tangible about them in the experiential mode of the human mind. Their manifestation takes place or is reflected in everyone’s behavior, attitude and style of life. Yet, these terms or concepts are very important to properly apprehend in order to establish a most needed and desirable position from which everyone chooses to function. Who or what is the coordinating and/or controlling factor among them? Who or what is responsible for the decision-making process and the consequent outcome of any acts, behaviors, attitudes, relationships or whatever you have? Is there something within the totality of the system of the human mind or human individuality that has such an important role or function? I am precluding, at the moment, from this elaboration any other sentient minds, positioned in the positive state because, in their case, they lack fully active ego states, which would dominate and rule them or their decision-making process. What they have though, is the potentiality for the development of ego states. This potentiality stems from the idea that they may, if they wish and choose by their own free will and choice, reject Me as the only source of their life, as well as of any life. In such potentiality is rooted the possibility of activating the ego states within them. Of course, if they were to choose that, in that case, they would find themselves in or they would fall out into the negative state, acquiring the same structural design of their minds that anyone else has in the negative state and human non-life.

At this point however, we’ll be talking only about the human mind or human individuality because within that mind or individuality the so- called abstract constructs in the form of ‘I am,’ ‘ego,’ ‘you’ and ‘switching mechanism’ are the most pronounced and the most tangibly manifested. Once again, the question is if there is anything within the human system (or system of any sentient mind) that transcends any of these manifestations and that is in full control over them, and thus, is responsible for all decision-making processes and their various outcomes. Do you remember something which was recorded in one of the earlier Dialogs about My Absolute Nature and how there is that integral part of My Nature which cannot be named, or uttered or comprehended or apprehended by any relative sentient mind? It was called ‘Unnamable Core of My Absolute Nature’ which is conceived as an integrative, originating, maintaining, regulating, ruling and controlling Source of all and everything in being and existence and pseudo-being and pseudo- existence (in pseudo-being and pseudo-existence, with the exception of originating or being their source). If you take into consideration that the original relative sentient mind was patterned and structured by the Absolute Design of My Absolute Sentient Mind, then, in that case, logically speaking, it must similarly contain something within its structure that transcends the totality of all components of that mind and which integrates, coordinates, rules, controls, regulates and directs all aspects of that mind in all its manifestations. The human mind is not excluded from this rule.

To the extent that this factor is unnamable and incomprehensible in Me, to the same extent you can conceptualize that this transcending state within the sentient mind’s system, as well as the human system, is unnamable and incomprehensible likewise. At least, as far as the sentient mind’s and human’s systems are concerned, it was not so until the present time. In My Absolute State and Condition, because of its Absolute Nature, this factor will remain unnamable and incomprehensible to eternity. On the other hand, in the case of the relative sentient mind and human mind, because of their relativity, some aspects of this transcending factor may be named and, to a limited sense, may be comprehensible. As you see from these facts, we are talking here about something new and different. Up to this point, no one has known that the sentient mind, as well as the human mind, contains something within their systems which can be conceptualized as a transcending, coordinative, integrative, controlling, regulating and ruling factor of everything of which those systems consist. But now is the time to reveal this important fact. The timeliness of this revelation was determined that someone of My representatives, in this case Mirko, came up with the question of this important magnitude and significance.

This transcending factor within the system of sentient entities, as well as humans, has a direct relevance and correspondence to My Unnamable and Incomprehensible Core. Without its being in place, all components, aspects, parts, or whatever you have, within the sentient entities’ and humans’ systems, would disintegrate and fall apart. The transcending position of this factor also serves as the ‘switching mechanism’ between this or that component, aspect, degree or level of each sentient entity and human. Only from the position of this transcendence, when you overlook, coordinate, rule, regulate and determine each and every particle of the mentioned sentient systems, can such switching take place. So, how can you conceptualize this factor in human terms? Is it possible to find anything in the human vocabulary that would be able to give you some idea of what we are talking about? If anything at all which transcends all its conglomerate states, processes and conditions, and which is in the position of coordinating, integrating, determining, regulating and ruling them for whatever purpose it has, in that case, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to find something in the human vocabulary which would be able to even remotely describe its nature. After all, such a vocabulary is within the human system and is one of the many components of that system which is ruled by the mentioned transcending factor. You cannot very well describe anything which transcends your comprehensive abilities and which is a derivative of some secondary component within the totality of your system.

The closest term which can be used for our purpose, and which can be considered only as an orienting point to the human mind for sensing what this is all about, would be a tentative term of ‘specific and unique individuality’ that functions by and has at its disposal all components, aspects, levels, degrees, parts or whatever you have, of the sentient entity in general and the human entity in particular; and at the same time, which transcends all that in exactly the same manner as My Absolute Unnamable State transcends all and everything in an absolute sense. This specific individuality can be equated with the term ‘you.’ So, whenever we are saying, ‘you are responsible and accountable for anything and everything,’ we mean this specific individuality which contains everything needed for making right choices and decisions. In some ways, you can say that everyone’s inborn ability to rationally distinguish between right and wrong (in human non-life and in non-life of the negative state), and to choose between them, is the most direct manifestation of this specific individuality.

In human non-life and non-life of the negative state, although this specific individuality remains on their unconscious level, nevertheless, in having the conscious awareness about their ability of choosing, it can be considered as its direct manifestation. Nothing is more obvious than this factor. So, whenever we say something like, ‘you are responsible and accountable for all your deeds or from what position you function (whether from your true ‘I am’ or from your artificial ‘ego’),’ we are referring directly to this specific individuality of yours. It is this individuality that, in the ultimate outcome of its choices, functions and manifestations, is being judged and adjudicated. Thus, in this sense, it does not really matter whether anyone in human non-life and in non-life of the negative state is or is not consciously aware about the existence of this transcending factor which we tentatively named as ‘specific and unique individuality.’ Due to the fact that everyone is consciously aware of his/her ability to choose and to change, by the factor of having this ability, everyone is functioning from the position of this specific and unique individuality. After all, this ability is one of the many forms or means of concrete manifestation of this individuality. This is the reason why we have said so many times that everyone is responsible and accountable for whatever is happening in their lives — no matter what it is and no matter when and under what conditions it takes place.

In its transcending, coordinating, integrating, controlling, decision- making, regulating, overlooking and choosing position, the specific individuality of each sentient entity, as well as each human entity, is placed in a state of neutrality. This state allows it to direct its energies in whatever direction it wills or desires. If the choice is for functioning from the position of its ‘I am’ and the true sentient mind in general (from within of the Spiritual Mind, through the interior mind to the external mind), in that case, the choice is to function from the position of the positive state or from Me. On the other hand, if the choice, for some reason or other, is to function from the position of the ‘ego’ and fake pseudo-mind (through its own three aspects), in that case, the choice is to function from the position of the negative state or from the position of the typical human nature. In either case, the responsibility always lies in everyone’s transcending individuality.

As My true representatives on planet Zero, who are receiving the privilege of knowing these facts for the first time, and who therefore, are put into a position of direct conscious awareness of the existence of this setup, you are given an opportunity to regulate your life based on this new knowledge. The issue here is with what or with whom within you, or in the totality of your own unique makeup, you want or desire to establish an identity. Once you know about this transcending factor of your nature, you may, if you wish, put all your full identity into your individuality and, from that position, direct its energies only and only toward functioning from the position of your true ‘I am.’ However, from time to time, and as long as you are in human life, if there is a need to function from the position of the ego state in order to provide some important learning, and in order to illustrate and demonstrate for the benefit of all, the specific nature of your own specific ego, in that case, the energies need to be shared with that ego. Without these specific energies, provided by your individuality, with which you are now in the state of full identity, nothing can function in your life. However, although sometimes it is necessary to provide these energies to your ego or to the manifestation of some aspects of your typical human nature, nevertheless, you are never to give all those energies to such cause. You may share them only to a certain degree. Should you direct all such energies only to the ego’s cause, in that case, you would find yourself in total slavery to the negative state, of which, the way out would not be an easy one. Instead, the major portion of those energies should be directed to functioning from the position of your true ‘I am.’ In this case, although some energies will go into your ego or into the manifestation of the aspects of your typical human nature — after all, how else could you fulfill the purpose for which you agreed to be incarnated into the human non-life and fully exhibit the nature of this non-life — because the majority of them will go to your true ‘I am,’ in this arrangement, from the position of being identified with your specific individuality, you will control all aspects of your ego functions and manifestations. Thus, in this case, your ego will not control and rule you, but you will rule and control your ego.

In order to accomplish this goal, you are advised to ask Me to take over your specific individuality and, from that position, to make it possible for you to regulate, control, rule, direct, coordinate, make choices, make decisions and everything else, from My Absolute Specific and Unique Individuality in all Its Transcending Aspects. In this sense, in order for you to be able to establish your full identity with everything contained in this transcending individuality, or with your individuality as such, you first need to request Me that I help you to establish such an identity based on My Absolute Identity in this respect. Only from the position of the Absolute State, is such accomplishment possible. Once you submit your petition for such an identity, based on the motivating and intentional factors for such a petition, I will provide you with all necessary means to succeed in this effort. This provision will be partially actualized either during your current human non-life, while you are still on planet Zero, or completely, after you leave it. However, no matter what the case may be, your petition in this respect will serve as a foundation on which, at some time or other, such full identity will be established to eternity. In the interim, if needed and necessary, a partial identity will be granted to you so that you may successfully control your ego states and the negative aspects of your human nature in general.

What will count in this respect, is your honest and sincere desire to always function only from the position of your true ‘I am’ and that for that reason, all energies of your specific and unique individuality be primarily directed to the function of your true ‘I am.’ At this point in time, as long as you are in your human non-life, not much more can be required or even accomplished. This was an agreed upon arrangement. And this is all that I wanted to contribute today. Should a need arise in the future to elaborate more on this important topic, we’ll do so.

Peter: Thank You very, very much for this prolific revelation. May we proceed with the answers to the posed questions?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Yes, Peter, we may; and we’ll proceed in the sequence as they came. First of all, let us address the term, coined by Swedenborg, ‘proprium.’ As you know, this term is a Latin word, the meaning of which approximates something that relates solely to one’s own, without any regard to anyone or anything outside of that own. In Swedenborg’s conceptualization it denotes a state of selfishness where no considerations are given to anyone else’s well-being but only to one’s own. At the time of Swedenborg, the term ‘ego’ had not been defined or established. This term was introduced to human psychology later on at the end of the XIX century. The meaning of both terms — ‘proprium’ and ‘ego’ is interchangeable. For that reason, you can say for sure that proprium and ego, in our conceptualization, are the same as far as their true meaning and content are concerned.

A somewhat more complicated situation exists with Swedenborg’s concept of ‘conjugal love’ (Swedenborg’s spelling is ‘conjugial’. However, the English dictionary does not contain this particular spelling). Before going into the reasons for Swedenborg’s introduction of this concept into his writings, let us, for a moment, consider the true meaning of the word ‘conjugal’ or ‘conjugial.’ This term, once again, derives from the Latin word ‘congugalis.’ Actually, this word consists of two separate words. ‘Conju(n)x = spouse. ‘Con’ = spouse. Ju(n)x derives from the word ‘jugum’ which means yoke. Thus, what you have here is that the true meaning of conjugal or conjugial denotes spouses in yoke to each other. In your modern terms this meaning is reflected in the words ‘marital bond.’ What is this meaning telling you? If you carefully analyze this meaning, then you have to conclude that in the true reality of its meaning, there is no such thing as true conjugal or conjugial love. Instead, it is a pseudo-love based on slavery, possessiveness, self-exclusivity, mutual dependency, ulterior motivation and similar, mostly all negative factors. Whatever has such a negative connotation, cannot be of true love. Therefore, it does not derive from the positive state or, in this case, from Me. Of course, this does not mean that the two people who voluntarily (in some cultures, even involuntarily) enter this bond or yoke, could not or would not have a deep love, appreciation, respect or friendship toward each other. However, this condition with them and between them has nothing to do with the so-called ‘conjugial love.’ Instead, it originates or derives from their positive inclinations and from the state of their true ‘I am.’ That they yield to the requirements and expectations of their culture or society in this respect, for whatever of their own individual purposes and reasons, is an entirely different story.

Do not forget what was indicated about this issue in the Big Book and in some previous Dialogs. The typical human marriage has a negative connotation and was invented in the Hells. That this is the case, you can see from the fact that the majority of the most violent and murderous crimes are committed within marital relationships or between spouses (spousal abuse, for example). Unless any relationship is founded on true love, respect, appreciation, mutual understanding, kindness, tolerance, patience, acceptance, compassion, empathy, independence, and more independence, and similar all positive characteristics, the so-called cultural and social requirements and expectations in this respect, in many instances, will only lead to disaster or tragedy.

So, as you see from this description, the so-called ‘conjugial love’ is nothing but a trap set up by the forces of the negative state in order to keep humans in mutual slavery and interdependency. As you know, in order to make marriages stand, no matter what, they were proclaimed by all religious systems, as well as by all legal laws, as being holy, sanctioned by God. They were put into a position of the most desirable and needed state, condition and process. How else could the negative state spread its sphere of influence and domination? Take, for example, the spiritual falsity of the statement which indicates that the two, who enter in the marital bond, become one and no longer two. What is the true meaning of this falsity and how did it come about? Is it possible at all to relinquish one’s unique individuality, spirituality, mentality, difference and one’s true ‘I am’ in order to merge with someone else and, as a result, to form a totally different state? To relinquish something like that equals destruction of that specific, different, unique and non- duplicable component that I endowed on each individual, and by which each individual is who he/she really is. In that case though, should something like this be possible at all, My Creation would be deprived of something very important, related to My Absolute Nature, which is available only and only by and through any specific individual in his/her relative condition. In some ways, it would equal existential suicide. The negative impact of such a possibility would be incalculable. You have no idea what could happen in this case.

Now, the origin of the meaning of the expression of ‘two becoming one’ stems from the distortion and purposeful falsification of the original concept of unification, integration, oneness and absolute equality of all principles of masculinity and femininity and femininity and masculinity. These principles in no way relate to gender or to the unification, integration and oneness of two different individuals — one being a male and the other being a female. Instead, it relates to every individual’s own internal masculinity and femininity and femininity and masculinity as contained in both a male and a female. Thus, to repeat again, this concept has no relevance to the external gender. However, in the process of invention, activation, establishment and manifestation of the non-life of the negative state and human non-life, these concepts and states were utilized by the original pseudo-creators in such a manner that they applied it to any two individuals of the opposite gender-sex. It was a very convenient utilization for them because it opened up a door toward establishment of something which was/is inconceivable within the true life of the positive state — slavery, repression, suppression of one’s individuality, difference and uniqueness, mutual dependency or dependency on the externals (after all, two people are positioned in different external states, never able to occupy the same space or be in the same state of internals) and similar all negative factors.

At the time of Swedenborg, as well as throughout the entire history of humanity on planet Zero, until not so long ago, such a concept as each individual containing within himself/herself both principles — masculinity and femininity or femininity and masculinity, regardless of gender, were not known or considered at all. It was not until C. G. Jung came up with this idea that the factor of such a structural design of the sentient mind or of all sentient entities started to penetrate the conscious awareness of humans.

So, what was it that Swedenborg talked about in this respect? As you know, it was clearly stated in the books of My New Revelation that Swedenborg and his writings represent the nature and content of the transitional period which was instituted at his time — from the Dark Ages to the Ages of Enlightenment or from the old to the new. As you remember from My New Revelation, any transitional period contains in its ideas something very new and different with a considerable retention of the old concepts, interpretations and understanding of all factors which ruled the old. Because of that, some of Swedenborg’s writings reflect this situation. At the same time however, Swedenborg was the first one who recognized the absolute integration of all principles of love and wisdom, good and truth and positive works (in his term, charity) and faith and their spiritual correspondential relatedness to individuals. His problem in this respect was that he ascribed these attributes in the manner which was conceived by the old conceptualization in that, such attributes were contained in their separation — one was in a male and the other in a female. In order to accomplish their necessary integration, the concept of conjugial love was invented by him based on the misunderstanding of the fact that it is not a male and female that need to enter such a state but it is masculinity and femininity and femininity and masculinity within each individual, regardless if he is a male or if she is a female, that need to enter the state of their full integration and unification.

So, in response to Erin’s question in this respect, we can say that both assumptions are correct: Swedenborg reflected the social climate of his day and at the same time, he was building a necessary bridge to The New Revelation’s conceptualization of the process and meaning of this issue in the positive state (without his being consciously aware at that time that this was the case). However, the majority of the content of his book Conjugial Love, was the result of his own mental and moral viewpoints. Thus, it was not directly inspired by Me. This book of his did contain some elements of truth, albeit in a somewhat distorted condition, which he deduced from those books that were divinely inspired.

You have to understand one important thing: Being human, by the factor of your typical human nature, you all have a strong and almost irresistible tendency to adhere to, or at least to be influenced by all traditions, customs, social mores, habits, expectations, etc., which underlie the pseudo-life of your country, society, community, neighborhood and their respective cultures. It is almost impossible not to be contaminated by such requirements. Swedenborg did not escape this situation. Being also a typical human, he, as everyone else, yielded to the customs of his time. And you also, frequently, yield to the customs of your time. As long as you are in human life, such situations are inevitable. For that reason, there will always be a tendency to interpret many things as well as behave, act, relate, talk, etc., from the position of these cultural mores, customs, traditions, expectations or whatever you have there in such an abundance. Objectively speaking, it will be very difficult and intolerable for you, under the condition of your typical human non-life, to be any other way. In some way, your survival in your typical human non-life depends on your ability and willingness to go along with or to adjust to whatever your society or country or community or culture, or whatever, either locally or globally, requires and demands from you.

So, if your society requires and expects from you, at some time or other, to get married and to have children for example, there will be a very strong pull to abide by these requirements and expectations. You do not want to find yourself in the position of being an outcast, a pariah or a weirdo at whom everyone points their fingers. You want to blend in, to be an integral part of life in your community. Such tendencies as, for example, to get married and to have children, are almost genetically engrained in you or in your human nature so that you would really yield to everything that your society demands and expects from you. To be that way for humans is as natural as breathing. Who can resist something so natural as that?

This is how the trap of human non-life was set. It is not easy for anyone, including someone as enlightened and inspired by The Divine as Swedenborg was, to avoid being in such a trap. In some way or other, you will reflect this condition of human non-life in anything you experience or adopt. It will become an integral part of whatever you say or write or consider. This is the reason why, Peter, many years ago, before you knew that you would be the transmitter of My New Revelation, I told you that human life consists of myriad and myriad distortions and falsifications and that it is built or founded on them. Otherwise, the typical human non-life would not be possible at all. Of course, you, as My true representatives, are not excluded from this situation. The only difference between you and all others, including Swedenborg, was that by means of My New Revelation, you became consciously aware of these important spiritual facts. This conscious awareness puts you into an entirely different position and degree of responsibility and accountability. Because of that, although, from time to time, it is impossible for you not to fall into this trap, you may establish within yourself an entirely different attitude about all of this. Your responsibility in this respect is not that much in being able to totally and completely avoid this trap, or not behave, act, relate or whatever in accordance with your society’s demand and expectations (which is utterly impossible anyway — as long as you are in human non-life), but, internally, in never identifying yourself with anything which human non-life, in the form of its cultural mores, demands and anything else it expects from you.

So, how do you do that? Take, for example, your need to be married in a typical human fashion and following your marriage, to have children. In some instances, it is impossible to avoid going through all the traditional and customary rituals surrounding marriage and raising children.

However, you may reject internally or within you, any tendency to identify yourself with the same conceptualization of these conditions or establishments as the majority of humans do. You look at them and their meaning from the position of all the principles of My New Revelation. Because you will not identify yourself internally with anything you have to do or the way you have to be while living within the frame of all demands and expectations of human non-life, nothing of that nature will be attributed or appropriated to you. In that case, following your departure from human non-life, and after entering the true life of the positive state, such things will fall away from you permanently and you will not be held responsible and accountable for anything of that nature. Of course, it would be a totally different story if you were to fully and completely identify yourself with all such expectations and demands as the majority of humans do. In that case, you would consider them as the only feasible and possible truth and lifestyle, and that nothing else or different could be and exist. Should anything like that become an integral component of your thinking and identity, you would become fully responsible and accountable for them. Thus, you would be judged accordingly.

Your enormous advantage, as compared with everyone else, is that, you have in your possession, by the means of My New Revelation, the real truth about all aspects, facets, conditions, states, dynamics, processes and nature of human non-life as well as of the non-life of the negative state in general. I can assure you about one very important fact: No one else in the entire history of humanity, including all My prophets, disciples, followers, Swedenborg or anyone at all, had in their possession and understanding these facts or these truths about human non-life and non-life of the negative state. Because of that they had absolutely no idea what the human non-life (for them human life) was all about or why it was possible at all for the negative state and its brand of non-life to occur in the first place. Being in such a position, everyone before you assumed that human non-life was a real life and that, for example, in Swedenborg’s case, it was the only life at all from which life of all sentient entities in the positive state derives because human life was considered by him to be a nursery for all other forms of life in the positive as well as in the negative state, respectively.

With such a false or grossly distorted understanding about human non- life, and with everything related to it, it was not difficult at all to consider such non-life as holy and the only one possible. And not only that, but to consider it as deriving from God Himself/Herself Who made all humans in His/Her likeness and image. Up to this point, or up to the point of the availability of My New Revelation, it was permitted to hold such a view about human non-life as being the only true life from which everything else derives. The reason for this permission, as you know, was in giving a chance for the full manifestation, learning, illustration and demonstration of all aspects of this non-life to take place as compared to the true life of the positive state. As you also know, if humans were to know from the beginning what their non-life was all about, they would never go along with being in such an awful, despicable, miserable, atrocious and abominable life. In that case though, the questions originally asked could never be answered, and as a consequence, all sentient minds would be plagued with uncertainty about anything at all. However, with the availability of My New Revelation, all fables, fantasies, illusions, falsities, distortions and everything else about human non-life, as well as about the non-life of the negative state, are being dispelled and put into the proper perspective. You, as My true representatives, by the mode of your own personalized and individualized lives in accordance with the principles of My New Revelation, are in the process of establishing an important condition in the human non-life which will eventually lead them toward full awareness about these facts as related to their so-called life. In that moment (in a non-time meaning!), they will be able to unchoose their mode of non-life and instead, they will choose the true life of My positive state. Once they become fully aware of these facts, it will signify that everything about and in human non-life, will exhaust its usefulness, will serve its purpose and will no longer be needed or necessary. At that point, the human non-life in all its negative aspects will be no more.

Peter: To tell You the honest truth, I cannot wait for this to happen. Sometimes I feel so sick and tired about everything in human non-life, or about all aspects of my own personal and individual human nature and the fragility of my human body, that I almost suffocate.

The Lord Jesus Christ: This is fully understandable. However, do not forget about the importance of your mission that you have from Me (not only yours, Peter, but everyone else’s who reads these Dialogs). Also, please, do not forget about the temporality and transience not only of the negative state and human non-life, but about the very brief tour of duty that each of you as separate individuals have on planet Zero and in your human body. How long does your human non-life last? In comparison with all other modes of life, which may last to eternity (especially and particularly in the positive state), the duration of your human non-life is as nothing, as almost non-existent. It is like a very small fraction of a blink of an eye. On your planet, who lives longer than 100 hundred years? You can almost count those humans on the fingers of your hands. So, do not despair; your human non-life will soon pass. Even if you were to live another 66 years in addition to your current 66, Peter, it would still be only less than a blink of your eye. Why do you think I permitted for anyone to enter human non-life under these conditions (to live such a brief and insignificant time)? Among many other things, I established such a mode during anyone’s tour of duty on planet Zero, in order not to have anyone suffer for too long from all the miseries, pains, discomforts, and everything else of the very negative nature with which human non- life is so abundantly infested.

So, in essence, you may conceptualize your human non-life as something which is of such an insignificant duration, time-wise, that in the scheme of events which could last many millennia or even forever, it is as if it does not exist. Of course, as mentioned in one of the earlier Dialogs, when you are in the midst of your human time flow, or within that very small fraction of an eye blink, it seems to you that you are in your predicament, whatever it may be, almost endlessly — as if it does not have any foreseeable end. It is a matter of perspective — from what position you look at your human situation. From the objective mode of perception, everything in it is as if it all happens simultaneously and at the very same time. In this perception, therefore, the duration of your human life equals one nanosecond, for example. For that reason, everything that you experience during your human non-life happens within the frame of this nanosecond. On the other hand, in your subjective mode the duration of your human non-life, from the position of your own subjective and tangible experience, lasts for many years or for the time allotted to your being on planet Zero in your human body. Even though it is not easy to think in the objective mode of how you experience and perceive your human non-life, you are advised, whenever you are in some kind of miserable or painful or unpleasant and frustrating situation, to be aware of this fact and to think, if you can, in the objective mode. It is quite possible for you to train yourself in thinking in this mode. If you can accomplish it, it will make it much easier for you to bear your human non-life.

Let us now address Boris’ questions. Why is it necessary to sometimes bring to anyone’s attention or to know about something which happened during the current cycle of time, or which relates to the negative state and its human non-life or to the idea that one may reject Me as the only Absolute Source of Life, if all that was taken out of everyone’s mind and memory, so-to-speak, and placed into the Universality-Of-It-All for eternal learning? Or after everything about what not to choose had been properly answered and tangibly illustrated? There are at least two important reasons; or better to say, at this time, only two reasons can be revealed and expanded upon. One, you have to distinguish between the state of knowing something and having that something as an integral part of your life with which you have to constantly deal on a daily basis and which therefore, considerably influences or even complicates your life, demanding from you your attention and your energies. Thus, to know something or about something or to have ideas about something is not the same as having that something in your life as its integral component. Once any knowledge about anything is acquired, it cannot be eliminated to eternity. It can be dropped from one’s memory or from one’s conscious awareness but it cannot be erased from the totality of the cache which contains all available knowledges and which is placed into the Universality-Of-It-All.

If such a thing as permanent elimination of any acquired knowledge and experience from being and existence were to be possible, in that case, no permanent learning about anything could take place. You would have to constantly acquire the same knowledge over and over again. This would prevent you from acquirement of any new knowledge because you would be bogged down in relearning the same thing on a continuous basis. So, as you see, it is one thing to have knowledge and ideas, and experiences related to them, or to have full access to that knowledge, to those ideas and to their individual experiences — whenever needed and necessary, and it is another thing entirely to be in a position of acceptance of and identifying yourself with them to the point that they become the ruling force of your individual and personal life. Why would it be necessary, from time-to-time, for anyone to have any need to enter the Universality- Of-It-All and to remember or to re-experience anything at all which would be eliminated from the sentient entities’ memories and which would no longer have a place within any future cycle of time?

This need relates to the structural design of any sentient mind, which, in its relative condition, reflects the Absolute Structural Design of My Absolute Sentient Mind. This design requires that any knowledge, experience, state, process and anything which was, is and will be acquired, is constantly available to anyone in order to prevent the possible redundancy and backward move or regression or waste of energy on seeking or making an all-out effort to discover any knowledge, experience, state, process and anything else that has already been discovered, acquired and established. In other words, such availability is necessary in order to preserve a continuous spiritual progression of everyone in being and existence.

You have to understand one thing: The structural design of any sentient mind is such that it constantly seeks to discover new knowledge, new experiences and new everything else. In the process of any such discovery, the sentient mind, first of all, searches out the Universality- Of-It-All in order to determine whether any such knowledge and experience, or anything else at all, needed for his/her purpose, is already available. Secondly, during this search, by the experiential mode of its nature, as he/she goes through all available knowledges and experiences, he/she may recall anything related to this cycle of time/state/process or to his/her personal life for the purpose of evaluation and establishment of whether anything at all from that cycle of time/state/process could be useful as a foundation on which new discoveries could be accomplished. This situation does not mean at all that anything recalled or re- experienced during such a search will be adopted or allowed to penetrate his/her mind or to take hold in his/her life to the point that he/she would be forced to make any of that a part of his/her unique identity. Once anything of that nature is placed in the Universality-Of-It-All, by that factor, it can never become an integral part of one’s identity nor can it ever have any adverse influence on one’s current life. It is available only in the form of knowledge or ideas and their experiences as such, without being taken over by them. Such is the arrangement of this setup.

Let Me remind you of something in this respect: In the original structural design of the sentient mind, which in its relative condition reflects My Absolute Sentient Mind, there is an area which can be called — Multiversal Consciousness. This area is directly plugged into the Universality-Of-It-All from which it receives any inputs needed for whatever purpose. In relationship to each other, they are in a constant communicative mode. In one sense, everyone’s Multiversal Consciousness contains all knowledges and experiences, as well as everything else, that have ever been acquired since the time when My Creation was created or put into its process. You can consider this area as one’s own individual and personal key to the Universality-Of-It-All which opens the door to everything contained in it. The difference between the two is in that, in the Universality-Of-It-All, there is a timelessness factor involved. What it means is that everything in it exists as if it is happening over and over again in its own true reality at any given moment of its occurrence. On the other hand, in everyone’s personal and individual Multiversal Consciousness the same things are in the state of available knowledge and experience but not in their actual occurrence. In order to make that knowledge and experience available for knowing and experiencing them in their true nature, the way they are in their essence and substance and in any current experiential mode of their occurrence, the Multiversal Consciousness, through its direct connection to the Universality-Of-It- All, by the very nature of the Universality-Of-It-All, is able to acquire the very essence and substance of any such knowledge and experience, or whatever is needed in this respect, in the most tangible and experiential mode. This possibility reveals to anyone who enters that mode, the true nature and structure of any knowledge and experience which occurred prior to any current cycle of time/state/process. That way, rediscovery of something which had already been discovered, does not need to take place. By this factor, eternal spiritual progression can flow uninterrupted.

The second issue in this respect relates to the concept of relativity. As you know, every sentient entity is relative and not absolute. Because of that, as you remember from the Big Book, no one can be perfect in an absolute sense. This condition establishes a peculiar possibility which can lead anyone to making occasional errors. The multiversal law requires that anyone who makes any error has to bear the consequences of such erroneous tendencies. In order to avoid any possibility of identification with one’s erroneous conclusions, whatever they may be, and by that factor prevent the reactivation of the negative state, the one who makes such errors is placed momentarily into the Universality-Of- It-All where he/she may experience all consequences, outcomes and results not only of his/her own personal errors but any and all other errors that have been committed in any other cycles of time/state/processes (with all their own consequences, results and outcomes). The reason why such an all-inclusive experience may take place (if needed and necessary), is for preventive measures. It helps him/her to avoid making any errors in the future which had taken place prior to his/her time/state/condition. In the broader sense, it helps to prevent the reoccurrence or reactivation of the negative state and of the typical human non-life in its negative aspects. Of course, new and different errors could occur because of one’s imperfection.

However, based on the experiential knowledge, pulled out of the Universality-Of-It-All and his/her own individual and personal Multiversal Consciousness, one is made able to correct them on the spot, so-to-speak. So, basically, these are some reasons why it will be necessary for everyone, from time to time, to re-experience or recall anything at all which is needed at each particular time/state/process. As far as the new sentient entities are concerned, the entities who will be created in any succeeding cycle of time/state/process, will be relative likewise. For that reason, everything explained above, will apply to them as well. They will need to have their own knowledge about anything which happened during any previous cycle of time so that, first of all, they will have no need to waste their energies on reinventing something or re-experiencing something which had already occurred; and secondly, they would have no need to ask questions as related to the meaning and experiences of the negative state and human non-life and to the content of the original idea about the right to reject Me as the only Absolute Source of their lives and what the consequence, results and outcomes of acceptance of that idea would be. Thus, having access to all those knowledges and experiences would preclude any reactivation of the negative state and its human non-life to eternity.

The concept of memory, from our spiritual standpoint and not from the standpoint of human psychological knowledges in this respect, has a direct relevance to and affinity with your personal and individual Multiversal Consciousness. They can be equated. In this respect, memory is the condition or the integral component of the overall sentient mind for the purposes of retention of all knowledges and experiences that have been and will be occurring during the entire history of being and existence of the sentient life. They are needed for the purpose of preservation and continuation of everyone’s spiritual progression so that no need would exist to reinvent or re-experience something which had already been invented and experienced before; that is to say, that there would never be a possibility for any type of regression to occur. And this is all that can be revealed at this time about Boris’ questions.

Peter: Thank You very much for this revelation. As You are aware, toward the very end of recording this Dialog, I received a somewhat lengthy letter from Dan Barba which contains somewhat lengthy questions that he asks about Your Personal relationship toward us at two of their levels — from Your Absolute State and from our relative condition. Do You wish to provide any answers to his questions at this time?

The Lord Jesus Christ: Although his questions are important and meaningful, the answers to them are premature to reveal at this time. There is a mystery here, the knowledge of which could be spiritually dangerous for you to know under the presently existing conditions. We’ll reevaluate the possibility of My answers at a later date. There is something else that needs to occur first. As for now though, you need a longer break and to do a different work. Until then — if needed and feasible at all.

Source: DIALOGUES WITH THE LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST PART 2.

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